KING CRIMSON STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK COMPLETE UK ISLAND ORIGINAL FIRST NM AUDIO
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An Important Foreword Regarding Condition & Grading: Previous visitors to my listings will know that I offer albums which range from very good plus to near mint in terms of condition. I don’t restrict my offerings to just near mint, and I don’t just call everything great or excellent plus regardless of condition. Occasionally a rare album turns up which in some respects grades very good plus but in other ways is outstanding so providing each of the features are individually and accurately graded, and I take great care with this, I am happy to offer it for sale. However, all vinyl albums I offer are at least highly presentable and deliver enjoyable audio, and most are much better than that – if you are intending to bid please read the individual grading and check that you are satisfied before placing your bid.
Vinyl Cleaning: I use machine cleaning only when my ‘ear’ tells me that the audio performance has deteriorated by exposure over time and will obviously be returned closer to the original sound by using this method. If I think a vinyl will benefit from this I carry out the procedure with great care using my ‘Moth’ RCM2, but I do not clean vinyls for the sake of it - many I offer for sale have had little use and although there can be slight contamination in the grooves, even when new, that is the original authentic sound. My preferred method with little used vinyls is by soft ‘light touch’ hand brush with natural fine hair gently moved in the direction of the microgrooves. In all methods of cleaning I use a mild solution of isopropyl alcohol with a spot of gentle detergent to lubricate and clean the playing surfaces. I am aware that cleaning can be a controversial subject with vinyl collectors, audio purists and enthusiasts so I will state on each individual listing if, and how, the vinyl(s) have been cleaned in the section just before the ‘Play Grade’.
Specific notes concerning this album: These leader paragraphs highlight and describe specific aspects regarding condition of the album(s) offered. The dedicated sections which follow give the ‘provenance’ in terms of the matrix – mother – stamper trail which determines the ‘position’ of a record in the pressing process and an assessment of the appropriate grade for each component based on Record Collector ‘Rare Record Price Guide 2014’. The essential ‘play grade’ and ‘audio performance’ report rounds up the description just prior to the ‘general notes’ which is the same on all of my listings. I hope that this format, including the extensive photo gallery, will prevent bidders from overlooking key points in their evaluation. Please read the following description and take a careful look at the comprehensive photographs which show the actual item clearly and provide an informative and accurate representation.
THIS PARTICULAR ALBUM HAS EXPERIENCED RELATIVELY LITTLE USE DURING THE LAST 38 YEARS, THE GATEFOLD GRADES A REMARKABLE EXCELLENT TO PLUS, OR BETTER. THE VINYL & AUDIO GRADES ARE EXCEPTIONAL AT EXCELLENT PLUS AND NEAR MINT FOR CLEANLINESS AND CLARITY – A TOP QUALITY ALBUM THROUGHOUT.
Where I mention age in my listings it is not an excuse for poor condition but as a matter of fact. I do not regard condition as age related, it is primarily dependant on care, and if you ever see something described as ‘good for its age’ I recommend you avoid it because more often than not it’s an excuse for something that has not been carefully used.
I do not use photographs to enhance albums they are included as an aid to bidders and I always ‘frame’ the shots to highlight any flaws or blemishes – not to bleach out, obscure or avoid them. My photo galleries always feature photos taken from as many angles as reasonably possible with ‘zoom’ and ‘enlarge’ facilities because I want visitors to have the best opportunity to examine visual condition.
The UK first issue fully textured gatefold cover (artwork by Tom Phillips, Printed and made by Robor Limited) of heavy duty card construction is in remarkable condition – one of the best examples you are likely to see with the only obvious sign of age and use being light discolouration caused by interaction with adjacent albums when stored, correctly and carefully, in an upright position on a shelving system for all of its previous life. Other than the minor spots, blemishes and light interface print transfer which you can see in the photographs there is nothing negative to report – but please take a careful look and make your own assessment as well. The centre spread is almost as new with no blemishes that I can see – near mint. The spine has retained its physical integrity and remains well formed and displays fully readable text – again the only blemish is the light discolouration which is hardly a fault, more of an elegant ageing process. The brilliant classic heavyweight (134 grammes) vinyl is magnificent with a brilliant high gloss surfaces and deep lustre; apart from a light and sparse scattering of superficial hairlines and tiny marks caused by brushing against the inner and one light superficial surface scratch on the ‘B’ side across track 1, none of which have any significant audio consequence, it shows little sign of use. The record labels have just a few light spindle trace lines and remain very near mint. The original dedicated lyric inner sleeve with flip backs is in excellent order, no seam splits, no tears, no damage and no writing just slight creasing and light age related discolouration. This is an absolutely brilliant album in every way containing some of the finest experimental progressive rock you are ever likely to hear and I recommend it unreservedly to all.
Album / Record Title: STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK
Rarity: EXTREMELY RARE AS A COMPLETE ORIGINAL UK FIRST PRESS, FIRST ISSUE FROM THE FIRST MATRICES THROUGH THE FIRST MOTHERS TO THE SECOND AND THIRD STAMPERS (MEANING THAT IT IS LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE FIRST 1000 EVER PRESSED) AND IT IS ALL IN OUTSTANDING CONDITION THROUGHOUT. In some ways King Crimson were artistically victims of their early success as their debut album ‘In The Court Of The Crimson King’ was such a powerful, pioneering and groundbreaking piece everything that followed was, in part at least, hidden by its shadow. This entirely understandable response is unfortunate in some ways because, in my opinion, many of their subsequent albums were equally prodigious in artistic terms – and ‘Starless and Bible Black’ is one of them. It did sell on first release in 1974 but to a relatively small number of devotees and complete UK originals are thin on the ground these days. If you want an outstanding example like this, and there’s every good reason to want one, they are very hard to find.
The key features are listed below:
- COMPLETE UK ORIGINAL ALBUM, FIRST PRESS AND FIRST ISSUE
- FIRST MATRICES, FIRST MOTHERS AND VERY EARLY STAMPERS
- SUPERB HEAVYWEIGHT VINYL IN EXCELLENT PLUS CONDITION
- STEREO RECORDING FORMAT DELIVERING SENSATIONAL AUDIO
- ORIGINAL UK ISLAND PINK RIM PALM TREE LABELS NEAR MINT
- ORIGINAL UK ROBOR FULLY TEXTURED GATEFOLD EXCELLENT
- ORIGINAL SINGLE SIDE PRINTED FLIP-BACK LYRIC INNER SLEEVE
- SERIOUS RARITY COMPLETE & IN THIS OUTSTANDING CONDITION
Artiste(s): KING CRIMSON – David Cross, Robert Fripp, John Wetton, William Bruford
Produced By: King Crimson
Disc Format & Playing Speed: 12” LP & 33 1/3 r.p.m
Recording Format: STEREO
Record label: ORIGINAL ISLAND PINK RIM LABEL – please see label photographs for details
Catalogue Number: ILPS 9275
Made in & first published date: England 1974 (March)
Vinyl ‘run off’ matrix side A: ILPS 9275 A-3U (first matrix)
Vinyl ‘run off’ matrix side B: ILPS 9275 B-3U (first matrix)
Vinyl ‘run off’ mother side A: 1 (first mother)
Vinyl ‘run off’ mother side B: 1 (first mother)
Vinyl ‘run off’ stamper codes side A: R (decodes as stamper number 2 - second stamper)
Vinyl ‘run off’ stamper codes side B: A (decodes as stamper number 3 - third stamper)
Vinyl ‘run off’ initials / cryptic / other side A: SARC (hand etched – Record Collector RRPG book has this as ‘GARC’ but, although it’s a little ambiguous, I think the first letter is an ‘S’ not a ‘G’)
Vinyl ‘run off’ initials / cryptic / other side B: Sean & Ray (hand etched)
N.B. Please note that all matrices, mothers and stampers quoted in my listings are machine imprinted except where I state an alternative method next to them.
Track listing as per labels: Please see label photographs for full details.
MY GRADING OF THIS ALBUM based on Record Collector ‘Rare Record Price Guide 2014’ (**n.b. please note that I grade accurately backed up by a description. I neither over-exaggerate nor under-exaggerate. I see no point in grading an item with multiple ++++ marks, or under-grading it and then stating that it should be graded better - I consider these methods to be confusing. I use the Record Collector system with either a PLUS or a MINUS to indicate slight variations either side of a grade). I always include a full set of super-sized photographs to provide bidders with the best possible opportunity to make their own visual assessment of each album in conjunction with my detailed descriptions.
Vinyl Visual side A: NEAR MINT
Vinyl Visual side B: EXCELLENT PLUS (allows for the one visible but light, superficial and non-sounding surface scratch on the ‘B’ side track 1)
Label Visual side A: NEAR MINT
Label Visual side B: NEAR MINT
N.B. Please note that I make no adjustment or allowance in grading for minor marks, slight shrinkage marks, stretch marks / lines on labels, misalignment or marginal print bleed caused in original pressing; these features are quite normal and in my opinion are individual characteristics – not defects.
Outer Cover: EXCELLENT TO PLUS, please see leader paragraph and photos.
Spine: EXCELLENT TO PLUS, please see leader paragraph and photos.
Lyric Inner Sleeve: VERY GOOD PLUS, please see leader paragraph and photos
Vinyl Warp: none visible when eye tested on a moving turntable.
Vinyl Weight: 134 grammes (an impressive ISLAND heavyweight)
Vinyl Cleaning: By hand only, light touch soft brush, very little required.
Play Grade: I consider all aspects of an albums condition and grading to be highly important and I place particular emphasis on the quality of the audio delivery; superior audio performance is, above all, the main reasons for listening to vinyl. For this reason I have decided to extend my play grade to rate separately how ‘clearly’ and ‘cleanly’ the sound is received. It is quite possible with vinyl to experience great ‘clarity’ and reality without the sound being exceptionally ‘clean’ - that’s ok with me, but it may not satisfy the audiophile. So, a NEAR MINT & NEAR MINT will be the best grade with VERY GOOD PLUS & VERY GOOD PLUS or better being highly satisfactory.
For CLARITY the audio from this vinyl grades: NEAR MINT
For CLEANLINESS the audio from this vinyl grades: EXCELLENT PLUS
Audio Performance: THIS IS A BEAUTY DELIVERING SUBLIME AUDIO OF GREAT CLARITY AND QUALITY FROM EVERY PART OF THE PLAYING SURFACES – THOROUGHLY ENJOYABLE. THIS EXCEEDED MY BEST EXPECTATIONS WHICH WERE ANYWAY VERY HIGH BECAUSE OF THE APPEARANCE AND PROVENANCE. IT HAS BEEN PLAYED BEFORE OF COURSE, BUT CAREFULLY AND NOT VERY OFTEN, THERE IS A LITTLE OCCASIONAL UNDERLYING SURFACE SOUND BUT IT REALLY IS THE REASONABLE MINIMUM YOU MIGHT EXPECT OF A VINYL RECORD FROM THIS ERA. THERE’S NOTHING TO DISTURB THE EXTRAORDINARY MAGIC OF THIS CLASSIC RECORDING AND CERTAINLY NOTHING TO IMPEDE THE FLOW OF CONTINUOUS PLAY. PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT THIS SECTION AND THE GRADING IS BASED ENTIRELY ON MY PERSONAL OPINION AND AUDIO PERCEPTION BELONGS TO THE INDIVIDUAL. WITH VINYL CLARITY THERE IS ALWAYS LIGHT TRANSITIONAL SURFACE SOUND WHICH IS INEVITABLE FROM THIS MEDIUM, EVEN WHEN NEW, AND OCCASIONALLY A LITTLE LIGHT CRACKLE WHICH IS OFTEN STATIC; OR EVEN A RANDOM SOFT TICK – BUT THIS IS KING CRIMSON AT THEIR BEST AND IT’S A REAL TREAT.
PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT MY OTHER LISTINGS BY CLICKING ON THE ‘VIEW SELLERS OTHER ITEMS’ IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER BOX OF THIS LISTING - THANK YOU.
GENERAL NOTES
Thank you for visiting my listing. The section immediately above sets out information specific to the particular album / record offered in this listing. Below are some of my general comments about vinyl which you may want to browse through if you have time. Please feel free to email me with any related comments or observations; particularly if you have any reliable information which contradicts any of my descriptions as I am always interested in adding to my knowledge on this subject. When preparing my listings I use a combination of facts from reliable sources, more than forty years of personal experience and, occasionally, music industry anecdotes.
Just a visual inspection of used vinyls is almost always misleading so I play grade every vinyl I offer, before listing, on a LINN SONDEK LP12 deck fitted with a LINN K5 cartridge down-force set at 17.5 mN (1.75 g) and a top quality stylus which I renew at intervals according to manufacturers specification, through a manufacturers pre-set REGA BRIO amplifier with sound delivered through FOCAL CHORUS 706 loudspeakers - this is a brilliant and revealing combination enabling me to be informative with play grading.
Although it is extremely rare, there can be a difference between my descriptions, and opinions, and an individual buyer’s expectations so I have a clearly stated Returns Policy for added reassurance which is detailed at the bottom of all my listings. In the unlikely event that you want to use this facility please read the details carefully first, and then contact me to agree the procedure. There really will never be a reason to have any problem with an item you purchase from me. Before bidding please read my terms and conditions of sale below which are there to inform bidders and prevent any misunderstandings.
First Issues, First Pressings & Originals: Please note that when I refer to a First Issue I mean that the evidence suggests that the album offered is from the first batch that was issued for commercial release in the country of origin stated in the listing. Where I state First Press I mean that based on a reasonable interpretation of the matrices, mothers and stamper codes the vinyl comes from the first, or extended first, production run; these statements alone do not always mean that the vinyl is from the very first ’stamper’ ever made. However, where I state First Issue and First Press it is likely that the album offered includes one (or more) of the early vinyl(s) produced in the country of origin from the first matrix sets, first or early ‘mother(s)’ and first or early ‘stamper(s)’. Original means that the record bears the first label design for that particular pressing and, in the case of the cover, it is from the first cover manufacturer for that pressing; the label and / or cover may have very slight changes, if they were made within the first production run or, if the album was issued with an ‘in run’ label change or choice of cover designs or colours on first release, but in these cases I will try and explain the differences. This is not an exact science and anomalies will occur where I may make a mistake but I believe this will not happen very often - if it does then all of my buyers have the unequivocal reassurance of my Comprehensive Returns Policy.
My definition of a rare vinyl: Generally there is agreement that to qualify for the description rare there should not be too many of the type offered, available on the market at the time. With my listings that will be the main criterion however I will also occasionally claim rarity based on excellence of condition, or some other key feature, or an accompanying item such as an insert, which is not often found with similar vinyls.
UK first and early pressings: In many cases inexperienced sellers claim first pressing status without knowledge or evidence in the hope of achieving high prices – experienced buyers will know better and avoid those offers. Of course with the more popular huge selling albums, where the record companies were fairly sure of major sales from the outset, there were many first pressings. Also, in cases where demand was sustained or emerging the first press run was maintained over an extended release period; in other cases the first press run was specific. Generally the lower the numbers in the matrices and stamper codes on the vinyl ‘run off’ areas, on both sides of a record, the earlier the pressing therefore ‘A1’ & ‘B1’ are most often first or early pressings, but there are variants and exceptions to the rule. The most notable ones, for example where the ‘1’ matrix was only used for test, promo or industry pressings so the commercial releases started at ‘2’ or even higher, and there are a few more observations which are worth noting. There are low numbered matrices which belong to second and even third pressings (in these cases the record companies gave similar numbers to the first press of a re-issue) you can normally identify these by, examining the labels which are often different in texture and/or design, and by checking the weight of the record as the earlier pressings were normally heavier. Sometimes different symbols were used in the matrices; these may indicate an earlier pressing, a contract pressing or just simply a change of format. For example some records have A61 & B61 others A // 1 & B // 1 others A-1 & B-1 and so on. In these cases the mother and stamper references can help with establishing the proximity of an individual record to the original recording – each different record company had their own coding system, some using letters from words to indicate numbers, others just using numbers. Better known examples include GRAMOPHLTD & BUCKINGHAM – used by EMI and DECCA respectively. Occasionally there are high numbers on first pressings, but this is unusual. Other points to note are the manufacturer of the ‘cover’ or ‘outer sleeve’ and various characteristics or design variants. The ‘inner sleeve’ or ‘bag’ can also be an indicator. However it is not wise to rely on details beyond the matrices and labels as the covers and sleeves can easily be interchanged. ‘Made Up’, Swapped’ or ‘Doctored’ sets are not uncommon, particularly with high value albums which have inserts and special text, so the best advice is to try and make sure that everything matches the criteria thus eliminating most of the risk (a good look at the photographs on the listing, if they are of the actual item offered as they are on all of my listings, is always advisable – hopefully the sellers will also include the ‘zoom’ and ‘enlarge’ photograph facility which only costs pennies to include and it remains a mystery to me as to why many avoid this service?). As a general rule I suggest that you don’t pay hundred’s or thousands of pounds unless you are buying from a reliable source who provide you with comprehensive information and have a clearly stated ‘Returns Policy’ - or unless you’ve got money to throw away (and in that case there are any number of far more deserving charities)
Audio reproduction on vinyl: In my experience there is always an element of surface or background sound with audio reproduction on vinyl, even when new - very hard to imagine how there could not be when two solid surfaces come into contact with each other and are then amplified! In my opinion anybody who claims there is no surface sound, or ‘silence’, is hard of hearing, has not turned the amplifier on, or is using very poor quality audio equipment. Almost all used vinyl has at least light surface scratches which are always visible when viewed under a bright halogen light - which is what I use for inspection. So if you are uncomfortable with a bit of light crackling it’s probably best not to buy vinyl. In my opinion the light surface sound is more than compensated for by the clarity and ‘reality’ of the overall sound reproduction. I listen carefully to every album I list, before listing it for sale.
Please Note: All of this comment contained in this listing is subjective, it is based only on my opinion and your expectations may not necessarily correspond with my standards. If you receive an album from me and you have some differences please remember to use reasonable communication as a first option. I have a comprehensive non confrontational ‘Returns Policy’ which is clearly set out below and providing there is no abuse, or use the negative feedback system, I will always reimburse you in full for your direct costs if you return the album correctly.
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE
DESCRIPTIONS: Are given in good faith, but they are based on my opinion and standards. Bidders should note that they offer at their own risk and must satisfy themselves that they have sufficient information about the item before they enter the bidding process. Please ask questions before you become involved with the auction, NOT afterwards! Where I list sizes/dimensions they are either as stated on the item/label by the supplier/manufacturer or reasonably accurately hand tape measured; however, they are not necessarily precise, should be taken as approximate and not relied upon where absolute precision is required. This clause does not in any way affect your rights under the terms of my ‘Returns Policy’, it is stated to prevent unnecessary inconvenience to both parties.
INFORMATION: Whilst I take care to try and provide accurate information on the original listing it is possible that new information may become available to me afterwards. I therefore strongly recommend that all bidders read any revisions and the ongoing questions / answers section of the listing before bidding as they may contain updated information which could affect your valuation of the item(s). In the event that new information is published, after the time you have become the high bidder, which adversely affects your valuation of the item(s) and you wish to withdraw from the bidding process please email your request and I will use the cancel bid option with no ongoing liability to any of the parties involved in the auction.
PHOTOGRAPHS: All photographs contained within this listing show the actual item (s) offered – they are not catalogue, archive or library photographs. Furthermore they are direct images and not re-touched or modified in any way. I try to make good and comprehensive use of images on the listing in order to give the prospective bidder the best opportunity to evaluate the item(s); however it is possible that in some circumstances the photographs can enhance the appearance of the item(s) due to compression so please take this into account before bidding and do not hesitate to ask for more images or information which I am happy to send by attachment to email. This is particularly recommended with overseas buyers where returns are often not a viable option.
OVERSEAS BUYERS WELCOME: I am pleased to deal with buyers from anywhere in the world. My method of LP packaging reduces the risk to your valuable vinyls & covers in transit. Makes no sense to me to buy something important and then play a ‘high risk of damage game’ when having it shipped around the world – I hope you feel the same. I will only dispatch using a fully insured and Signed-for delivery service.
PACKING & POSTAGE: Vinyl’s are removed from covers and placed in separate transit sleeves. All components are then placed side by side in a polythene inner for extra safety and water resistance and then secured between two corrugated card stiffeners. I use Heavy Duty Mailers Specifically Designed for Vinyl Albums, which provide excellent security and protection, in conjunction with my own Ultra Safe reinforced sealing and packaging method. Internally I use 2 of the highest grade ‘B’ flute corrugated card stiffeners to prevent bending, deformation or edge/corner creasing. Packing & postage prices are NOT negotiable on items dispatched individually or separately. However, if you are a similar time multiple buyer where all items purchased are being sent to the same address and they can be combined safely, you can ask for a discounted quotation before bidding. I will only dispatch using a fully insured and Signed-for delivery service.
Postal insurance is subject to Royal Mail Standard Terms & Conditions. Quotations for other insurance such as premiums to cover non-standard risks or consequential losses are available on request.
PAYMENT: For Buyers WITHIN the UK: PayPal, or Pound sterling cheques / money orders, with minimum 7 days to clear before despatch.
PAYMENT: For Buyers OUTSIDE of the UK: Payments by PayPal only please.
CANCELLATION: The Seller reserves the right to cancel any bid, entirely at his discretion and without giving prior notice, in the following circumstances:
They have reason to believe that the bidder has not complied with the terms of their offer as set out on the listing.
The bidder’s feedback is of such limited quantity that it cannot be regarded as reliable.
The bidder’s feedback is of dubious quality and/or gives the seller any indication or reason to doubt the credibility of the bid.
MY FEEDBACK POLICY: I leave feedback for buyers after they inform me that they have received the item(s) and have left me their feedback. As I have a clearly stated Returns Policy, which does not expose the buyer to any direct loss whatsoever, I see no reason for either side to indulge in negative feedback. Providing the buyer does not engage in threats, abuse or use of negative feedback I will resolve any problem in a fair and reasonable way. If you have a problem or complaint about any transaction you have made with me contact me on somemightsell_e@btinternet.com and we will find a solution that is acceptable to you.
SUPERSIZED PHOTOGRAPHS: I have super-sized the photographs above to provide prospective bidders with the best opportunity to make their valuation before entering the bidding process, please just click on the ‘Zoom or Enlarge’ and arrows to use this facility. Sometimes due to reflection these images can appear slightly distorted, ‘graining’ can appear and dust particles can be exaggerated by the light - in reality there are no defects of this kind.
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