GRAIL THE BEATLES I Want To Hold Your Hand/This Boy UK 1963 ORIOLE SOLID CENTRE
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More Information to follow! But Please check out my other items! This week I have some of the very rarest Beatle's UK 7"s (more Rare Solid Centre Beatles singles than I've ever seen listed together before! Both the EMI AND The ORIOLE Solid Centre I Want To Hold Your Hand etc!), some of the rarest FREAKBEAT singles and PSYCH DEMOS (The Eyes, Mickey Finn, Linda Van Dyck, Stone Graphics etc etc etc.), plus Megarare Overseas Pressings Suck as The YARDBIRDS' Heart Full Of Soul German EP Original and the to my knowledge UNDOCUMENTED BEATLES' South Rhodesian Scroll Label/Tri Centre Ain't She Sweet with Sweet Georgia Brown on the B-side! I have loads of rarities, but this week, I'm pulling out a fair chunk of the Cream of the Crop for you! Bid with confidence! I'll ship to anywhere in the world, though if the item goes above the standard £20 insurance value, I insist on FULLY INSURED postage paid for by the winning bidder, so please bear this in mind! Please click here to check out my other items!
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Record Weight: 47.1g (Heavy Oriole Contract Pressing!) Conditions: Disc Visually: VG+/EX- Disc Audibly: EX- Labels: EX-/EX Sleeve: EX-
This is an incredibly rare Beatles single… well OK granted this single isn't very rare, but this pressing certainly IS! EMI are known to have produced solid centre copies from 1966 onwards, and even, in early 1967 tried to phase out (unsuccessfully) push-out centres, therefore a very limited few later pressing copies of earlier singles were pressed with "solid centres", however, this isn't even one of those, as for certain singles demand proved too much for EMI's pressing plants they paid other companies, or, contracted out, to press some of their singles in more demand Beatlemania era Beatles singles being prime candidates for this, with unprecedentedly HUGE advance orders, various companies were used for various singles, Decca, Oriole/CBS, even Philips! Oriole were known to have, either by gaffe or intent released a VERY limited few singles with solid centres, these at the time, until EMI started pressing very limited numbers of solid centres on later reissues, were the ONLY solid centre singles available in the UK of Beatles on Parlophone! As Bruce Spizer and Frank Daniels catalogue in their excellent book "Beatles For Sale On Parlophone Records", copies of I Want To Hold Your Hand, Can't Buy Me Love, and I Feel Fine with contract Oriole Solid Centres have been verified, and this is ONE! Popsike lists only 6 sale of this Oriole Solid Centre ever having come up for sale online! This is a 7th (and, as it hasn't been online before, this is another copy). AND WHAT A COPY! Visually this disc rates as VG+/EX-, and audibly it veers to the top end of this! There are a few light surface marks around the outside edge of the A-side which cause very light crackle and 2 ticks in the silence before the song kicks in, though once the song has started there is next to nothing audible. Apart from this the A-side just has the lightest surface hairlines, please listen to the audio above and judge for yourself, but to my knowledge this is one of the strongest copies of this pressing ever to turn up! The B-side just has the lightest surface hairlines and a lovely gloss! Again, check out the audio! Lovely! The labels are in wonderful condition, beautifully crisp, no rips/stains/writing etc, 2 light spindle rubs on side A (which actually is just 1 rub in a loop!), only visible when caught in the light, and the B-side also only has a handful of ever so light spindle rubs near the centre hole, again only visible when angled into storming direct light. Ever so light fading to the very mm edge of the B-side centre hole, almost always seen, and is a miracle that the A-side doesn't have this! Really very beautiful labels, with that exciting and tell-tale oriole solid centre, smooth outer, textured inner label! With a second ring outline, where one ends and the other begins! As with all Oriole pressings, there is no Stamper Code at 3 o'clock, just a Mother (9 o'clock) code, which I'll list below. As with all copies of this I've been able to research, the deadwax matrices of both sides, have a small dot below the 1N endings of the matrices. As is expected with an Oriole pressing, there is no central KT tax code, but a vertical (K above the T), above the Mother code at 9 o'clock on both sides. The Labels are lines up correctly with the deadwax info. INTERESTINGLY THERE ARE SOME REMARKABLE THINGS ABOUT THE LABELS (To someone as obsessed with record minutia as myself anyway!) First of all, and this is very rare on normal presses, let alone solid centres! The A-side has no mention of the "N.C.B." credit Underneath Northern Songs, whereas the B-side DOES! The A side label is what is referred to in the Spizer/Daniels book as PAR 5084.01A (ii), HOWEVER the B-side label is undocumented in their book for any pressing of this single, it has the "3" of "1963" directly under the "S" of "First", like an 01B(i), A-side label, but the line spacing of the label matrix and the Recording First Published text, of the 01B(ii), though a variant encompassing both of these is, as far as I am aware, as yet undocumented, on any IWTHYH single… Please Let Me Know If I'm Wrong! The sleeve is the quite rare "INSTRUMENTS" Mistake sleeve (where due to a type setter's error it reads"Controlled by Electric & Musical Instruments Ltd." on the back of the sleeve, rather than "Industries"), being used at this time, and is the best example of this I've come across. EX-, no fades, no sticker wear/writing/stains/rips/wear-throughs. No Nicks along the top opening mouth edge. Just very, very light handling, and the top-most left hand corner has never been glued together for the last 1cm (note there is no sign of it's glue having ever been there to have failed).
No SITUK text on either side (has there been an Oriole Solid Centre documented with SITUK text?), Capitol letter PARLOPHONE rims on both sides, no central Tax Code, NCB on B-side BUT NOT A-side, KT tax code at 9 o'clock in deadwax on both sides.
DEADWAX INFO/ MATRICES ETC:
Side A:
7XCE 17559-1N . K T 3
Side B:
7XCE 17560-1N . K T 5
Whilst uploading photos this way is a lot more time consuming, when I have loads of other extreme rarities to update, I figure it takes almost the same to upload 5 as it does to upload 20-odd! So here you go! There can be absolutely no doubt of this item in your mind now!!!
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GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY BIDDING!
My Grading system:
Based on a slightly stricter version of the Record Collector, Rare Record Price Guide system.
I Don't believe in Mint, I almost only ever hear it from sellers who don't know the grading systems, therefore, you won't hear me using "MINT". If an Item is sealed I will state it as such, but still will only go as high as EX+.
EX+: Sealed, or seemingly NEVER played, if EX+ were to ever spill over to an item that may have been played a handful of times, but incredibly carefully, I will explain this thoroughly!
EX: The top end really, someone has very much cared for this record, else forgotten they've had it! Again only played with reverence, and not played much!
EX-: Very similar to EX, but slightly more realistic, many cared for collections may have a few EX- discs in them, though usually they'll be those James Last records your Auntie bought for you and (hopefully) you've never listened to since!
VG+: Again a very well looked after record, though with noticeable surface marks/hairlines when caught in the light, the worst one may hear is the lightest, very occasional background noise, often not even this on many players!
VG: Same as above, except more surface marks, and a little more audio background noise, though certainly not detracting from the listening experience. A good playing copy for someone who buys to play the record.
VG-: A little worse, still very listenable, and plays though fine, though might not be the end of the world, if someone drunkenly adds a few more surface marks to it one night! Background noise will be there in some form!
G+: "Good" doesn't really mean good does it?! G+ means it still plays though, though someone in the room, un-used to records (and probably born when minidiscs were already a thing of the past!), will probably make a comment about the crackliness.
G: You won't want to use your best stylus on this one probably! We're definitely in "filler" territory now, unless it's a particularly rare copy, this is a party copy, you shouldn't mind when this one gets a scratch, (you might not even notice!).
G-: If crackling gives vinyl it's "warm" sound, then this one is beginning to become a fire hazard! The likelihood is you won't catch me selling a record at this condition or less, unless there really is special cause (rarity/signed/mispressed etc.).
I often won't even grade things lower than a "decent playing copy" (VG-), though if they don't play through or are warped etc (even if they do play through), I will mention "JUMPS", "WARPED" etc. etc. either in the title, or near the beginning of the item's description, so there can be no doubt!
I endeavour to be as meticulous as possible when grading, and almost always play test the entirety of every LP and 7" I'm selling (often I make an MP3 back-up of it too... yes I know it's obsessive), but I'm sure one of these days I will overlook something, or someone will have reason to question my gradings (so far I have only had the honour of being told that I'm shooting myself in the foot by undergrading! If an honour, that is!), in which case please do contact me, and we will sort the issue out!
Please check out my other rare punk/new wave/indie in my other items!
And I'll be listing loads more over the next few weeks so be sure to add me to your favourites list and check in regularly
Alittle about me!
I've collected records for about 20 years, and now have TONNES! I want to go travelling for as long as I can, and as such don't want to have too many possessions to have to store, I also need dosh to travel as freely as I'd like, and therefore selling the bulk of my collection seems the best of both worlds! I love records and will still keep buying them, I'm sure, but I really need to downsize in a big way! I do have some seriously RARE records to list over the next few months, and will price them to sell, so please do watch this space!
And if you're at all unsure, please check my previous feedback for tales of satisfied customers, many of whom return again and again!!
I will of course, if you aren't ENTIRELY happy with your item offer you a full refund upon a quick return of the item, in exactly the same condition I sent it out in, I wont however cover the postage costs- just in order to put off any time-wasters, I hope you understand. I do have here some REAL MEGA-RARITIES, and I understand perhaps your confidence in me might not be complete, as I haven't listed for a while, which is why I offer this offer of full re-embursment. However I am not a fan of the trend of people trying it on and asking to keep the item but want a partial re-fund, I haven't had it happen to me, and want to keep it that way, so please don't try that, I will happily offer your full winning bid money back upon the safe return of the item, and I think that's fair.
I am very strict with my grading, having been a collector myself for many years, and I try to include as much relavent information as possible on sales, however if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask, I will gladly resond as soon as I can.
One thing I would ask is that the winning bidders do leave feedback, as it's annoying when people overlook it.
I happily offer reductions of postage costs on multiple-items,
I try grade using direct sunlight which shows up more than anything (hence where poss I take my photos in direct sunlight too), however living in the Pennine Hills, contrary to popular rumour it isn't sunny here EVERY day! So when this isn't always possible, as a backup I also use a 100 Watt lightbulb, though when poss I try to use both.
I feel my grading system is stricter than many I see used, but the sellers I respect on Ebay and elsewhere seem to be of the same mind as me, I'd much prefer to be known as someone who undergrades and you can get a good record from, than someone you have to wonder, "actually is their VG+ quite what I'd expect from that?". Hope I can win you over!
(SOMETIMES I MAY COME ACROSS A RECORD OF SIGNIFFICANT RARITY/DESIRABILITY THAT MAY HAVE A JUMP/STICK IN IT. IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT I THINK SOMEONE MAY WANT IT (EG. IT'S COVER'S IN GOOD NICK, OR IT'S A PRIVATE PRESSING/PROMO OF LIMITED AVAILABILITY) I'LL CLEARLY MARK THIS IN THE TITLE "JUMPS" OR "WARPED" ETC.)
Good luck and Happy Bidding! Loads more punk/new wave etc. etc. every genre really to come over the next 2 months! so...
Be sure to add me to your favourites list!River.Dog.
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