CANADA GARAGE DEMO THE ROGUES I Can't Hold Out 45 1965

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WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY 2008:

ARTIST: The Rogues aka The  Five Rogues (Pre - Mandala Toronto Garage Legends!)

TITLES: I Can't Hold Out b/w I'll Make It Up To You

SPEED/SIZE: 45- 7"

LABEL: Private Label -Canada?

DATE: 1965?

VINYL CONDITION: VG White Label Test Pressing Vinyl Acetate w/ handwritten titles ! Rare! Less than a handful of copies known! Mostly given to band members or promoters. Plays VG+ Listen to MP3 sample of "I Can't Hold Out..."

ABOUT THIS RECORD: Unknown and very limited Primitive Garage Swinger Demo 45 by Toronto's 5 Rogues aka Pre - Mandala ! Rare! Less than a handful of copies known! Mostly given to band members or promoters. "I Can't Hold Out" has all the primitive garage feel that we teen garage collectors look for: Stinging guitar, whirling organ & snotty & pained punk vocals. The flip is a teen croner garage ballad. This demo shows the Toronto legends just cutting their teeth Pre - Mandala!

Here's what Wikipedia has to offer:

Mandala's origins can be traced back to The Rogues, the house band at the Club Bluenote in Toronto during the summer of 1964. Keyboard player Josef Chirowski (born on March 2, 1947 in Germany), bass player Don Elliot (born on December 8, 1944 in Toronto) and drummer Pentti "Whitey" Glan (born in Finland) had worked together previously in several outfits, most notably Whitey & The Roulettes, who also contained future Luke & The Apostles and McKenna Mendelson Mainline guitarist, Mike McKenna.

The band adopted the name The Rogues when singer George Olliver (born January 25, 1946 in Toronto) and former Robbie Lane & The Disciples guitarist Domenic Troiano (born Michaele Antonio, January 17, 1946 in Mondugno, Italy, naturalised Canadian in 1955) joined in 1965. For a very brief period at the end of 1965, future Blood, Sweat & Tears singer David Clayton-Thomas also augmented the line up after parting with his previous support band, The Shays.

In the spring of 1966, The Rogues (minus Clayton-Thomas) briefly became The Five Rogues and consolidated their local reputation with regular appearances on the city's vibrant club scene, playing at venues like the Hawk's Nest, the Club Mimicombo and the Gogue Inn.

One show at the Gogue Inn, advertised in the Toronto Telegram's "After Four" section for May 25, 1966, found the group opening for Wilson Pickett alongside another local group, R K & The Associates, who featured future Mandala singer Roy Kenner. During this hectic period, the band also performed throughout Ontario, appearing at notable venues like the Whitby Arena and the Jubilee Auditorium in Oshawa. Around this time, the group also recorded two tracks as demos - "I Can't Hold Out No Longer" and "I'll Make It Up To You".

Five Rogues become Mandala

In mid-September 1966, the group's manager, Rafael Markowitz (aka Randy Martin), a former TV clown, sensed a change in the music scene and decided to reinvent the group's image and name. Mandala is a symbol (a circle within a circle within a circle), which is used by Buddhist monks as an aid to contemplation.

Markowitz envisioned the band as being a channel for the audience to release its emotions and the newly named outfit, decked in pinstripe, gangster-style suits and aided by strobe lights, returned to the Toronto scene in early October with its "Soul Crusade", which was met with mass hysteria.

Anyway, listen to MP3 sample of "I Can't Hold Out" and then come back and bid. Don't this Canadian Gaage rarity pass you by! From my DJ box to yours....Just in time for all those Mod Garage Summer Allnighters!

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MY VINYL GRADING INFO:

NOTE: I grade using the US grading system so VG+ = EX!!! All records are play-graded and visually graded. My 1200+ positive feedback is proof that I am a conservative grader and an honest seller/buyer who wants you to be satisfied!  IF I SAY IT PLAYS CLEAN, YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED! DJ’S WORD!

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M-: NEW & UNPLAYED. That you can find 60s & 70s 45s & Lps in this shape 30+ years later is a MIRACLE! DJs dream condition. Buy Now!

VG+ (aka EX): VERY GOOD PLUS means a few/some light scuffs and/or minor marks that do not look bad nor do they affect play much if at all. Many well loved & well kept 45s & Lps are VG+.  Fine for DJs.

VG: VERY GOOD means some/many scuffs and/or marks and/or maybe even a light scratch that may affect play back a little but not much. Most well loved and well played 45s & LPs are VG.  Still fine for DJs unless noted.

VG-: VERY GOOD MINUS means lots of scuffs, marks and/or light scratches that will affect play but the 45 or Lp is still worth keeping & playing until a better copy turns up. Not recommended for DJs. (DJ Note: I’ve heard cleaned up VG- copies played out at clubs and you’d be surprised! Amazing what a thorough cleaning can do for audio-fidelity!)

P: POOR (aka G/Good or F/Fair) To call a record with loads of scuffs, marks, no luster and scratches GOOD or FAIR is an OVERSTATEMENT! Poor 45s & Lps are just that; Poor looking and Poor playing. Included only due to rarity or as a collection filler.

SLEEVE GRADES:

M-: New, Neat & Clean looking.

VG+: Looks nice but some creasing, wear & tear.

VG: Well loved, well handled and some creasing, wear & tear.

VG-: Very well handled with lots of creasing, edge wear & lots of wear & tear.

P: Beat up, splitting, tears & heavy wear.

ADDITIONAL GRADING/NOTES INFO:

WOL: Words/Writing on label

XOL: “X” on label

BB/CO/DH: BB hole , cut out mark or drill hole

#OL: Number on label

SOL: Sticker or stain on label

TOL: Tear on label

DNAP: Does NOT Affect Play

EDGE WARP/DISH WARP: Edge of record is Warped/Record has a Dish Warp

WLP/LP: White label Promo or other color promo

DJ: Dj copy

FLEXI: Thin plastic flexi disc

RE: reissue

RI: Rhode Island, my state! (NOT REISSUE!)

NETS: 60s New England “Teen Scene” 45 or LP

If the auction player does not work, feel free to contact me at tymesup@hotmail.com and I will send you an MP3 sample. I will be happy to play anything for you over the phone. Email me so we can set up a time.

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